The "only" kind of immortality people would desire is to obtain infinite lifespan via any means possible(infinite biological lifespan, transfer of consciousness into computers, etc)
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The latter? transfer of consciousness into computers?
What you describe reminds me of that somewhat, but bitcoin agents and decades of social network streams don't seem to help construct consciousness. Anything that fails to replicate brains or consciousness will fail to immortalize us.
I guess it'll involve nano machines scanning information from brain cells and then sending information via wireless network to a mechanical brain(or a brain program). "nanomsg", the pillar of your career, may help nano machines communicate with each other. Or self-replicating nano machines will replace brain cells gradually over several months, converting an organic brain into a mechanical brain. Various communications patterns in ZeroMQ and nanomsg seem to fit how brain cells communicate with each other.
For now, the social networks feed is the best we have, so let's settle on that.
In the future, scraping the brain may be possible, but right now we are barely able to scan visual cortex to get a (very blurry) picrure of what the person is seeing.
In any case, you have to solve the problem of an "active agent" and how to make it socially respected as a continuation of yourself. The article tackles that problem.
Btw, I've added a long EDIT to the article based on feedback from others. May be of interest to you.
For now, sadly, the social network feeds are the best we have.
I just hope I won't have to die to find out if there is afterlife. I hope humans will develop a way to lengthen our lives before I die.
Also, thanks for adding more words to this article. Reading the added explanation, social network streams and AI agents look like transfer of consciousness.
By the way, replacing organic brain cells gradually with self-replicating mechanical brain cells solves the problem of discontinuity of consciousness.
If you were rich enough to cover the cost of friction, this opportunity already existed before Bitcoin. You could set up a foundation operating according to rules you set up while you were alive.
Yes. However, consider the example of count Lanfranconi in the article… the foundation would have to survive, uncorrupred, WWI, dissolution of Austrian Empire, creation of nation states, the Great Depression, creation of Slovak fascist puppet state, WWII, the communist regime, the 1989 revolution, the mafia state that ensued etc.
Also, when speaking of immortality, you presumably want to carry out your actions directly, rather than let other people interpret your will.
I am not sure which is more fragile in the face of change: an algorithm executed by computers or a contract executed by people in the legal OS ;) There is probably a trade-off between adaptability and allowed degree of interpretation. The foundation thing seems to have worked for Alfred Nobel, for example. On the other had, making this a practical option for most people *is* nice. Immortality As A Service?
"It suggests that small programs should be created that would mine Bitcoins and use the money to buy the computer time to be run in the cloud."
If I have cloud that can mine enough Bitcoins to more than pay for its electricity, why would I run other people's agents ? I can just mine everything myself.
To me it seems more likely that such small programs would be run for free, with the state or some foundation paying the electricity bills. Of course there is no real guarantee that it would last.
Dead people can't generate money indefinitely. Agents of a dead person could exchange information for money, while they have information to sell, but eventually this is going to end.
Unless… Hmm, there is probably a good S-F novel to write about how one could try.
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